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Issue #120: Ms. Marvel #1 Discussion | Comic Book Podcast

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Welcome to another Talking Comics podcast… a podcast being recorded while most of North America remains “cold as balls”. I don’t know why that’s in quotes, but don’t overthink it.

We’re joined this week by TC contributor and reviewer, Suzanne Nagda to help us talk about the little comic that virtually no one is talking about *insert sarcasm here* from Marvel… Ms. Marvel #1 as written by G. Willow Wilson and drawn by Adrian Alphona. We do a group review of the book as our topic of the week, so tune in to hear our in-depth thoughts on it.

As per usual, we also have our Books of the Week segment, which includes discussions on comics such as: New Avengers, Detective Comics, Air, Black Widow, Punisher, Mudman, The Movement, X-Men, All-New Invaders, Mighty Avengers, Forever Evil, Green Arrow, Loki: Agent of Asgard and more.

Since we discussed Ms. Marvel at length for the show, we decided to mention the Carol Corps Celebration happening the day before Emerald City Comicon, so if you’re interested in reading more about the event or purchasing a ticket, you can do so by clicking here.

Annnnnnnnnnd… we say it on the show, but just in case you missed it, the Talking Comics crew on Twitter are:

Bobby: @bobbyshortle
Steve: @dead_anchoress
Stephanie: @hellocookie
And Bob’s email is bobreyer@talkingcomicbooks.com

FYI: the crew have gone all superhero on the world, thanks to the wonderful Hanie Mohd. Like them? Make sure to follow her and let us know what you think of our new superhero pictures.

Enjoy!

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4 Responses

  1. Gary

    Stephanie’s criticism of Brian Wood’s X-MEN is ludicrous. Whether you like it our not, I think you comment on this podcast was ill-informed. Moreover, your comment was confusing and did not make your point. There is no difference between writing a story “about a female character because she is a female character” and one written “about a human character who happens to be female.” This is a semantic difference without any distinction. If a character is female, no matter what the situation or circumstances, she will behave differently than a male character. If she is above the age of 40 she is likely to behave differently than one who is younger than 40. Approaching a story as if such gender differences don’t exist or matter is to ignore the uniqueness of experience and how that influences what a character does and how they might do it. I used to live in a world where feminist wanted such an approach to storytelling. They wanted their gender to be seriously considered since it wasn’t so often. If Stephanie likes Black Widow it doesn’t have to be because the character is interpreted without any consideration of gender. It might be because the book is well written. I think that Brian Wood comment was generated more based on other issues than the quality of his writing.

    • CairCoke

      I agreed with Stephanie, and did not find her comments ludicrous, ill-informed, or confusing. Sometimes in mainstream comics, some writers have written female characters more as a collection of stereotypes rather than as people. Black Widow, she was saying, is a well-written character.

      Also, there are many different groups of feminists, who have different ideas on these types of issues. Just like different people can have different opinions about Wood’s X-men without someone being right or someone being wrong.

    • Stephanie Cooke

      I have absolutely no qualms with Brian Wood whatsoever. In fact, The Massive, DV8, New York Five, Conan the Barbarian, Mara, Star Wars (from what I’ve read), Northlanders and many other Brian Wood titles happen to be comics that I REALLY enjoy from him since I initially read them and they still remain fantastic comics that I really enjoy. I’m not going to argue my point more because I made my thoughts pretty clear in the podcast that I just simply don’t like what he’s done with the X-Men series. If I’m going to make a comment about someone’s work based on something he did in real-life, that would be one of my arguments expressed and not just passive aggressively implied.

      The rest of your points I can appreciate and debate with you but for me, this will be the first and only comment I make to you regarding this issue since you brought up the fact that I might’ve had alternative reasons for disliking X-Men with no founding whatsoever… similarly to what you accused me of doing with the book.

  2. Bob Reyer

    As I agreed with Ms. Cooke’s on-air comments, I also obviously did not find them without merit nor confusing, but a continuation of her previous opinions about the XMen series.

    To put a fine point on the whole matter as one, Ms. Cooke’s trepidations regarding Brian Wood’s XMen predate the publicity surrounding his “troubles”; as a matter of fact, from the moment the Brian Wood all-female X-team was announced, she expressed concern that the project was ill-conceived, more a marketing ploy than an attempt to tell a meaningful story. As I recall, upon reading the first issue her fears were confirmed, as she felt that some iconic characters were being poorly served, appearing more as the cliches of “catty” women than the heroes they had been portrayed as in previous works.

    If, as Harlan Ellison so often points out, “Everyone is entitled to their informed opinion”, Ms. Cooke’s stance is certainly that, and has been consistent on the same points from the outset, and therefore merits respect.

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