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Issue #87: Why Comic Books Are Awesome! | Comic Book Podcast | Talking Comics

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This week’s podcast leads on a much happier note than last week. As such, our Topic of the Week features the gang talking about the great things on in the comic book industry. We read out some mor6e comments and questions from you, our wonderful listeners, and try to bring things back to a happy place.

Tons of news gets discussed such as Jim Carrey’s controversial comments on Kick-Ass 2, Dr. Strange and more. We also take the time to discuss Naughty Dog’s latest game, The Last Of Us (even Bob chimes in… sort of).

And some of our Books of the Week for this last hot, humid week of June include: Batman and Batgirl, Mara, Brother Lono, Age of Ultron, Last Of Us (the comic!), Amala’s Blade, 6 Barrel Shotgun and Battlepug (aka the BEST COMIC EVER… really, go read it right now), My Little Pony, Doctor Strange: The Doctor Is Out, FF, X-Factor, Captain Marvel and more.

Annnnnnnnnnd… we say it on the show, but just in case you missed it, the Talking Comics crew on Twitter are:

Bobby: @bobbyshortle
Steve: @dead_anchoress
Stephanie: @hellocookie
And Bob’s email is bobreyer@talkingcomicbooks.com

FYI: the crew have gone all superhero on the world, thanks to the wonderful Hanie Mohd. Like them? Make sure to follow her and let us know what you think of our new superhero pictures.

The Comic Book Podcast is brought to you by Talking Comics (www.talkingcomicbooks.com), a blog dedicated to covering the latest and greatest in comic book releases. The editorial staff is composed of Editor-in-Chief Bobby Shortle (Fanboy Remix, Doctor Whocast), Stephanie Cooke (Misfortune Cookie) and Steve Seigh (JoBlo.com contributor) who weekly dissect the releases and give you, the consumer, a simple Roman yay or nay regarding them. Our Twitter handle is @TalkingComics and you can email us at info@talkingcomicbooks.com.

12 Responses

  1. Christian

    I am not sure how you guys feel about gay marriage, but I would like to pose this to you so maybe it might help your opinion of guns.

    A couple months ago it seems the outrage against Orson Scott Card was well warranted because he was an advocate against individual rights.

    Now, Jim Carrey is doing the same thing and there is some outrage, but not by many in the podcast community.

    I know that Bob is a dye in the wool Liberal and I respect that he has a viewpoint, but think of it in a way of individual liberty. Marriage is a fundamental right because it is a contract between two or more people, depending on your view of course, and we all have the freedom and right to enter into contracts without the government standing over us as long as we are adults and of sound mind, because those are required for contract law. Marriage is the same thing and bureaucrats should not be dictating that.

    And for those that would use the force of government to limit rights, regardless of the right, should be shamed publicly. It is not ok to take someone’s rights, even if you do not agree with how someone may use that right as long as they are not going around hurting others.

    Now guns are a constitutionally protected right, just like speech and religion. The reason that it is constitutionally protected has to do with the British attempting to seize arms from the people, not unlike what is happening today. It is the last protection against tyranny, and while many do not think that is at all possible I would point you to the events of drone attacks on civilian populations, illegal arms dealing to rebels, NSA spying on all data from people without any objections or evidence to do so but with a simple wave of the FISA courts, extraordinary rendition, the elimination of due process, the right to no longer remain silent without expressly saying so (new court ruling), limits to speech, and the list goes on.

    I say to you that all of these rights are worth protecting, even the right to own arms. What is liberty and freedom without the means to protect it. Well, that is my little rant. I may not agree with how someone may use their freedom and liberty, but I will not be party to taking that from them.

    • Christian

      Just to point that I mention it because I just thought I should point out the difference in the way people view both Orson Scott Card and Jim Carrey. My personal opinion is that free people should be left alone, whether that be marriage, guns, drugs, sodas, sex, drinking, money, gambling, etc. As long as they are not hurting other people then that is fine.

      If you want to do something about guns, make the use of a gun in the commission of a crime a very very harsh penalty, say it adds 20-30 years to the sentence. That would go a long way to make what would be an incentive against using a gun in the commission of a crime.

      Bob,

      I should make sure to correct myself in pointing out that you are a modern liberal. I happen to fall into the classical liberal camp myself, in the company of Bastiat, Locke, Jefferson, von Mises, Franklin, Jean-Baptiste, Hayek, Rothbard, to name a few through time.

      I should also mention that comics helped to provide me with the concept of liberty and protecting the rights of all people, I cite X-Men as a major influence there. Comics helped to show me how important the individual is to the greater good of all, thank you Superman, Spider-Man, Captain America.

  2. Jatman

    I have to say that first and foremost, this is a website to talk about comics, not politics.

    That being said, no one is trying to ‘take’ your guns. They’re trying to put restrictions on them to make them harder for the wrong people to acquire them. As a father I don’t think that’s necessarily a bad thing. To keep it on topic with the spirit of the site, our favorite heroes show us that you don’t need a gun to stand up for what’s right, and you don’t need a gun to make yourself heard.

    • Christian

      I know that this is a site about comics, but comics and related items do reflect the culture of the times, which does include politics.

      What is the ‘take’ about? It seems as though you are attempting to be condescending. And yes, there are some politicians that would like to outright ban guns.

      None of the laws that have been suggested would not have stopped any of these horrible incidents. There are already plenty of laws on the books, but there is no ability to enforce them as they stand now, what will more laws do?

      I do not support restrictions on the freedom of speech just as I wouldn’t with firearms.

      I am not saying you need a gun to stand up for what is right, it is only a tool. One in which people can use to stand against an oppressive government.

      As for the incidents, with the logic that gun control advocates use we should put heavy restrictions on video games, comics, or any other thing that is not responsible for the act but the person that committed it. This is far more a mental health issue than a gun issue. We should focus on helping those people with issues of this sort rather than punishing those 99% that follow the rules and are fine.

  3. Christian

    The Spider-Man talk at the end of the podcast was nice. While I like SUperior Spider-Man, after reading Savage Wolverine #6, which was awesome, I gotta say I miss Peter Parker. The characterization of Parker is missed, it is the mannerisms that are key to his character and it is missing from the Marvel Universe.

    But, Oct certainly does show how Parker was wasting his gifts and that so many problems Parker had was of his own doing.

    • Christian

      How so? The right to defend oneself is not any different than the right for one to express themselves. And maybe rather than saying something is stupid offer something more intelligent as a rebuttal.

      • Bobby Shortle

        Christian and Luciano,

        First of all I will ask you to please keep it civil here. Using the word “stupid” is a reductive and inflammatory way to address someone and it does promote any sort of intelligent discourse.

        And Christian,

        You brought up good points, and your views on the 2nd Amendment are obviously something you’ve thought a lot about. However it’s tough for me to address them since this is not a political show, it’s an entertainment one. I would have to do extensive study to come up with a well rationed, well informed viewpoint on the gun debate.

        Our talk about Jim Carrey really wasn’t about fun violence and more and actor’s responsibility to his production and to himself as a person. If you ask me specifically why I came down harder on Orson Scott Card than Mr. Carrey it’s this.

        Mr. Card spouts hate speech. His bigoted and outlandish ideas of gays being denied rights they deserve is a clear choice to try and hurt another group of people. More over a group of people whose actions would not effect Mr. Card one way or another.

        Mr. Carrey seems to be simply trying to do what is right in his heart. He sees violence and he finds it a abhorrent. He blames guns so he is using his influence to try to curb the use of something that has without a doubt killed many innocents over the years. Whether I agree with that stance or not I take his actions as him doing his best in trying to make things safer.

        So, for me it’s the motivation rather than the actual cause. Card does what he does out of hate and it seems Carrey is doing what he is doing out of sense of responsibility and worry. That seems more noble to me whether I’m in his side or not.

        I hate the idea of political parties, religious groups, and even nationalities. They are all institutions that seek to separate us by our difference rather than unify us through our shared humanity.

        If you want to have political debates here that is fine, but keep the level of conversation high and try to remember we are here as a community and as a family and not as soldiers on the side of one cause or another.

      • Christian

        Bobby,

        Thank you for the well thought out response. I too find political parties to be abhorrent. I agree that there are far too many things that are used to separate us into categories other than Human.

        I will do what I can to keep things civil, I prefer to have it that way as well.

        I understand that Carrey is trying to do what he thinks is right, but it could be argued that Card is trying to do the same thing. For the record I do not support either and find that Card’s bigotry to be a bit worse than Carrey’s blame of an inanimate object.

        I do find it strange that Carrey’s seems to be backing out now several months after the incident and it is not as though Carrey did not know what the movie was before he signed on. He blames guns, but the worst school massacre in history involved homemade explosives. The real problem happens when you have someone that is not mentally there anymore, they do tend to find a way to harm others if they are not getting help.

        I am from Norway and we had a horrible massacre, much worse than anything that has happened in the US. Norway has really strict gun laws, but like the US lacks the proper way of dealing with mental health. But, unlike the US Norwegians did not make any knee jerk reactions to change laws because of one person.

        The sad thing is that these incidents do happen and will happen, the only thing we can really do is try to help these people before they act.

        I abhor violence as well, but I can differentiate between reality and fiction as I think most people can, including kids.

        I find it a bit hypocritical that Carrey takes his payday and then comes out against the project before it is released because he then has a change of heart. If he donates the money to help victims of these types of tragedies then it would be respectable.

        As for damage, Carrey has done more damage by pushing the anti-vaccine pseudoscience than any one person has done with a gun.

        In any case, it is my viewpoint and I happen to study the unintended consequences of laws.

  4. Ethan

    Hi guys,

    Thanks for the awesome podcast! I think everyone needed something a little different and a podcast that focused almost entirely on the positive side of this hobby was an excellent idea.

    I really liked Steve’s comments about the community around the podcast. The truth is, while comic-stores can be a gathering place, they can also be somewhat impersonal, particularly if you don’t have a whole lot of time to do more than pick up your pull list. Conventions can be likewise be impersonal and a little intimidating, particularly if you don’t know anyone else going in. So, the podcast and website is a really good outlet to get people together to talk about comics. Thanks to your efforts, it is a community. Granted it’s one that does not always agree (see all of comments above for example), but it is a community nonetheless united by our love of this most American of art forms.

    As for myself, I find that I disagree with you guys more than I agree, but if you’re ever in San Diego, I’d be more than happy to buy any one of you a bottle of Arrogant Bastard Ale (yes, that really is the name of one of our local brews) and chew the fat.

    Thanks and regards,
    -Ethan

  5. thisjohnd

    Bobby, I know you don’t like to talk negatively about comics but I’m glad you brought up the rather disappointing Batman and Batgirl #22. For a few months now I’ve felt as though the “voice” of Batman has been off and in this issue that felt especially true. I know every writer has his own unique take on Batman across different titles but reading a more civil version of the character in Snyder’s book then reading this perpetually angry version is turning me off to Batman & Robin. I may be dropping it as a result.

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